Have you ever had a conversation go somewhere you didn’t expect it to go? That’s what happens on this episode as our guest, educator and young adult book author Kelley Crawford, steers us away from talking about the pitfalls of virtual learning in these COVID-19 times to the resilience of our youth and the creativity of our teachers.

It’s a conversation of promise and hope. Not a bad way to spend 30 minutes!

Given the times, this episode was recorded remotely using Zoom. The quality may not be great, but we hope the conversation is!


Kelley Crawford, who is in COVID-19 exile in Florida but continuing her work as adjunct professor at Bard Early College and Tulane University and managing editor of Via NolaVie


Brett Will Taylor, who isn’t a fan of virtual learning, but always finds himself inspired by anything Kelley Crawford does.

Renee Peck, who found that this episode took her back to teachers who inspired her back at her Kenyon College days


Darrell Rollo, a New Orleans comedian who is running out of ways to find the humor in all of this